If you could only choose 1 archetype that would be the most representative of the Fate of the Norns universe, which one would you choose? Think of each archetype as to what they would bring to enrich a DnD 5e game table.
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5e poll, what archetype would you want ported to 5e
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Re: 5e poll, what archetype would you want ported to 5e
It was a toss up between blacksmith and seithkona for me. Blacksmith because 5e needs a serious crafting class which are fun to play from a role play perspective. Seithkona because that was my main archetype before my Ragnarok dissolved.
Re: 5e poll, what archetype would you want ported to 5e
Galdr. It doesn't have a 5e analog really. Seithkona is closer to a wizard. No one maintains runes at all, and runes are very very thematic. Blacksmith is a pretty good choice, but with the artificer, I gotta think that is close. otherwise we have berserker/barbarian, druid/druid, fardrengir/ranger, maiden/fighter, sceadugegan/rogue, skald/bard, ulfhednar/barbarian.
also, no stalo listed up there.
also, no stalo listed up there.
Re: 5e poll, what archetype would you want ported to 5e
I think the Blacksmith is where I would lean since I haven't seen a good 5e alternative.
What book is the artificer from Raleel?
Would Stalo have any analogs?
What book is the artificer from Raleel?
Would Stalo have any analogs?
Re: 5e poll, what archetype would you want ported to 5e
Stalo would probably be a fighter with a clan crafter background or maybe noble to represent the rich tradition of the Ulfberth bloodline. You could also make the argument for pact of the blade warlock to mimic the spiritual Stalo Archetype.
Artificer is still unofficial and in play test and being constantly revised, and it’s not in an actual book yet. But it’s by and large a much higher tech crafter than a non fylgia blacksmith.
My vote is either blacksmith or maiden.
Blacksmith because the only other crafting heavy classes are the forge domain cleric from Xanathar’s Guide to Everything and the various unofficial incarnations of artificer, and I think a class with a faster, more interesting version of the 5e crafting system would be cool; and god knows the Enchanting system in 5e sucks. Allowing them into Infuse a proficiency or class feature into a number of items equal to their intelligence modifier would be hella cool. Plus, the awful beast master ranger is the only 5e class with a built in animal companion, so the forge beasts would be awesome, whether that’s oh look I can ride a dragon or I've got a super stealthy, tiny size class minion who can see in magical and non magical darkness out to 120’, that becomes a lot of fun. Side note: the Lilliputian might be fun as an extra option for the expanded familiar options for pact of the chain warlock.
Maiden because a high Dexterity, high charisma class would be fun, and it would be easy to adapt existing mechanics for it. Instead of unencumbered dodger, use something like the barbarian and monk unarmored defense, skinning it as AC = 10 + Dexterity + Charisma. Melee attacks against you suffer -5’ reach (can’t reduce reach below 5’) is a good way of doing untouchable to make it useful against reach weapons or really big creatures without being overpowered. For turn the blade, you could do something where a number of times per short or long rest equal to your charisma modifier, if an enemy misses you with a melee attack, you can force them reroll the attack against themselves or an ally.
Artificer is still unofficial and in play test and being constantly revised, and it’s not in an actual book yet. But it’s by and large a much higher tech crafter than a non fylgia blacksmith.
My vote is either blacksmith or maiden.
Blacksmith because the only other crafting heavy classes are the forge domain cleric from Xanathar’s Guide to Everything and the various unofficial incarnations of artificer, and I think a class with a faster, more interesting version of the 5e crafting system would be cool; and god knows the Enchanting system in 5e sucks. Allowing them into Infuse a proficiency or class feature into a number of items equal to their intelligence modifier would be hella cool. Plus, the awful beast master ranger is the only 5e class with a built in animal companion, so the forge beasts would be awesome, whether that’s oh look I can ride a dragon or I've got a super stealthy, tiny size class minion who can see in magical and non magical darkness out to 120’, that becomes a lot of fun. Side note: the Lilliputian might be fun as an extra option for the expanded familiar options for pact of the chain warlock.
Maiden because a high Dexterity, high charisma class would be fun, and it would be easy to adapt existing mechanics for it. Instead of unencumbered dodger, use something like the barbarian and monk unarmored defense, skinning it as AC = 10 + Dexterity + Charisma. Melee attacks against you suffer -5’ reach (can’t reduce reach below 5’) is a good way of doing untouchable to make it useful against reach weapons or really big creatures without being overpowered. For turn the blade, you could do something where a number of times per short or long rest equal to your charisma modifier, if an enemy misses you with a melee attack, you can force them reroll the attack against themselves or an ally.
Re: 5e poll, what archetype would you want ported to 5e
Plus, with the maiden, I’m just a sucker for high charisma characters. I’m running a norns game, but I’m also playing in a couple dnd games on the side, and one of my favorite characters is my klepto Dragonborn bard/sorcerer who can talk his way into and out of any situation. I think that something with the monk’s unarmored defense and mobility and a bard’s charisma and skill set would be awesome.
Re: 5e poll, what archetype would you want ported to 5e
Wouldn’t the 5e equivalent of the Galdr be sorcerer? The idea of a small sacrifice to alter the metas on a spell is, to me, quite reminiscent of sorcery points and meta magic.raleel wrote:Galdr. It doesn't have a 5e analog really. Seithkona is closer to a wizard. No one maintains runes at all, and runes are very very thematic. Blacksmith is a pretty good choice, but with the artificer, I gotta think that is close. otherwise we have berserker/barbarian, druid/druid, fardrengir/ranger, maiden/fighter, sceadugegan/rogue, skald/bard, ulfhednar/barbarian.
also, no stalo listed up there.
Re: 5e poll, what archetype would you want ported to 5e
I think that most of the classes look like sorcerers after a fashion with that as a barBalasar wrote:Wouldn’t the 5e equivalent of the Galdr be sorcerer? The idea of a small sacrifice to alter the metas on a spell is, to me, quite reminiscent of sorcery points and meta magic.raleel wrote:Galdr. It doesn't have a 5e analog really. Seithkona is closer to a wizard. No one maintains runes at all, and runes are very very thematic. Blacksmith is a pretty good choice, but with the artificer, I gotta think that is close. otherwise we have berserker/barbarian, druid/druid, fardrengir/ranger, maiden/fighter, sceadugegan/rogue, skald/bard, ulfhednar/barbarian.
also, no stalo listed up there.
After all, everyone can use metas. Granted, the galdr is the only one who does the whole sacrifice thing like that, but i think it's more defining that he gets a number of runes as passives.